But were the emails forged?
Everything in those emails were facts. And I don't even think the mails favoured me in any way. It's not the exact mails that were sent and signed, but there were elements of truth in the mails that were published.'
Why did you tell Ebony you own Mohits?
My mom advised me not to speak. And the interviewer took it out of context. I co-owned Mohits. We registered the business in 2004, and we owned it 50:50. So I spoke about that, but the interviewer took it wrong and the fans put pressure on them and they corrected it.
How about Sahara Reporters?
I never wanted to have any interview. It was on the eve of my US show. I was told I should do the interview, because they're very troublesome. I had to do the interview for the sake of my show the next day. I was guaranteed that there'd be no politics questions. I had not been in the country. And I had been under pressure. Sadly, when that happened and I was being attacked in the media, none of my guys came out to support me.
Looking at all this, what are your regrets?
The truth is that if nothing went wrong, you'd have still heard all this good news and Mohits would take the glory, I didn't come out in eight years to say anything. Everyone made their contributions. There were no issues, as long as it worked. My mistake was thinking that we were one. People don't question their brothers and sisters.
How do you feel about Wande Coal and Dr. SID taking sides with Jazzy?
I won't be too quick to judge Wande Coal. I hear it was Jazzy that tweeted those Wande tweets. I don't know how true that is, but I know he had our social media accounts. As at a month ago, I couldn't access any of my accounts. My password was changed on Twitter and Facebook. Then Universal intervened. I'm about to be verified on Twitter now. I'm not really a social media person, so it was Don Jazzy and some of our other guys that were running it. Wande himself knows the truth. He cannot talk to me like that. The whole Mohits knew who ran the label businesswise. They knew who to come to when they needed to get money out, after we recorded the album. Who knows the factory where Dansa was made? But you will know the marketing manager. The car he's driving, I bought him a brand new Prado from Phyllis and Moss after he crashed the car he won from Hiphop World awards. I bought six Range Rovers last year. I bought D'Prince an LR 3 last year, he crashed it, then I bought him a Range, and it's true that I bought two Bentleys. Because of Jazzy. But after July last year, after the issue with Jazzy, I bought myself the Aston Martin.
You bought that? I thought that was a gift?
I bought it.
How were you able to fund all that?
In the last nine years, there are a few people and corporate bodies that God has helped me build relationships with, either individuals or banks, or even corporates that are involved in the growth of the industry. I've enjoyed their support, and even now that we're going global, we're pooling the funds together from all these places.
Could you possibly be Nigeria's richest pop star? A billionaire?
Vanity upon vanity. Money is material. In terms of what we're doing, you'll call me a Trillionaire, because this vision is too big for only me. With the help of the industry, the government, people like you Ayeni, we will not only be billionaires, but trillionaires, and not just me, but every little kid that has same talent like Beyonce, or Nicki Minaj. And with the standard of the UMG worldwide, we can pass people out from our own Universal Music Group Africa, Universal Def Jam Africa, and everyone should jump on this ship with us. It's not the Titanic.
There's been a lot of confusion – what label exactly are you signed on?
My album comes out under my label/GOOD Music/Island Def Jam. I'm funding the D'banj album, in America, through GOOD Music/Island Def Jam. GOOD Music is Kanye West who is co-executive producing with me. The deal comprises of Island Def Jam, in US. But in UK, it is under Mercury. My first single will be released in Europe on May 14. My work will be released in Africa through Universal/Def Jam. We don't have these structures in Africa, and they've seen how much money they've lost. They've seen what I've done with Mohits. I made my pitch to them; I've made them realize how much they were losing in the African region. Over 150m Nigerians, over 800m Africans. 2% of that is 8.5m. They were not making anything except from S.A, which has been the US of Africa. So we will be launching this label in Ghana, in partnership with Vodafone, launching in Nigeria in partnership with MTN. Def Jam Africa will be up soon; Kenya, SA, and North Africa will follow.
Why are you risking all this? What if you burn your fingers and lose everything you've worked for?
Lose out? Well, I am happy I even have something to risk. To whom much is given, much is expected. Look at Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Jay Z, Kanye West, these people take it to the max, take it to where they believe that they can push it to. In the first instance, coming back to Nigeria with Jazzy was because I was a risk taker. And I wouldn't say I'm throwing everything away. I would say I'm putting everything back in, in order to rip into the future. I get a broadcast from Tonye Cole everyday. He says when you tell people this your vision, know that it's not for you alone – it's for everyone. It's like what Fela did. If what I'm doing doesn't work, but sows that seed that will germinate in three, five years, it means my name will be written in gold.
Some people have tried this before you, unsuccessfully. Do you have doubts and fears sometimes?
My last album was in July 2008 – no album in four years and I know what I still command in those four years. The momentum for me to be able to do this is because I see how much it took me, I saw the benefit, it's God, and the favour of the relationships we've built. Plus, I don't take no for an answer, I don't take negativity. It will work in Jesus' name. If not, I wouldn't have landed in the UK and hear Oliver Twist on the radio. Nor would I be in the mainstream media with them saying I'm pioneering afrobeats. I said to them 'Oh hell no, that's Fela's music. Fela is the legend.' So I pray to God – I beg my fans, it'll be good to do half a million downloads. It's possible, it's a different market. Platinum in UK is 300,000. I believe with the support of my people in Redding, Coventry, Dusting, Hackney, Thamesmead, Abbeywood, we can do it.'
And so, as I say my goodbyes and flag down the cab that'll take me to Heathrow Airport, I can't help thinking out loud: should one man sacrifice the wishes of the collective on the altar of ambition and material wealth? But then, what should be expected of the man whose dreams and ambition grow beyond those of other – possibly myopic- members of the collective: should an individual sacrifice his personal desires; derail his destiny, so to speak, in the interest of the collective?
In all of this, faithfulness and loyalty have been brutally murdered. And the jury is still out on who pulled the trigger.
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